Debra Lynn Dadd

Steam Cleaners

QUESTION:

Hi Debra - this is Mary Anne Stern in Los Angeles (the person who sent you the organic manicure/pedicure recipes). THANK YOU SO MUCH for all the help you give to us persons with MCS (I have fibromyalgia also). Anyway -

Can we pretty please get your "take" on the value or advantages (if there are any) to steam cleaners? I started looking into them and quickly got overwhelmed. There's everything out there from $19.95 hand-held models that are supposed to sanitize your countertops clear up to models that are $2,000+ with a dozen or more attachments.

The advertising promises to do everything from sanitize your home surfaces to cleaning your rugs and drapes to mucking out the tracks in your doors and windows to killing dust mites in matresses; and of course all effortlessly, if you believe the ads. I keep wondering about the old adage about something that seems to good to be true . . .

Because of my medical conditions, I already make my own household cleaners with baking soda, H2O2, vinegar, castille soap etc etc etc. Would a steam cleaner do a better job? Thanks again so much! Mary Anne in Los Angeles

POSTED BY MARY ANNE :: CA USA :: 11/15/2006 2:50 PM


DEBRA'S ANSWER:

Hi Mary Anne. I'd be happy to give you my thoughts.

I bought a steam cleaner a couple of years ago. It was about $150, so it's the "middle of the road" model.

I think the idea is fabulous. The hot steam really does clean things without elbow grease. One thing we cleaned was a lot of green stuff that was growing on the north side of the walls of our house in the forest. It came right off.

But, to be honest, I hardly ever use it. I think the reason is that it isn't "quick and easy." It sits in my closet and I only think of it if I have a big cleaning job. But this is me. I don't vacuum either (Larry does the vacuuming). Hauling noisy machines around isn't something I enjoy. I'd rather sweep with my handmade broom with the nature spirit face carved in the handle than vacuum.

Also, you need to add water to make the steam, and when the water runs out you have to stop cleaning, add more water, and wait for it to heat up again.

I also don't have a lot of attention on sanitizing my house. There's only just Larry and me anyway and we're exchanging germs all the time.

An inexpensive steam cleaner won't do more than sanitize the counters, but a good steam cleaner can and will make big tough cleaning jobs easier. So I'm not going to use it in place of my squirt bottle of vinegar and water, but I'm glad I have one for the hard jobs.

I listed a steam cleaner on Debra's List--Vapor Strike Vapor Cleaning System--excuse me, this is a vapor cleaning system, and there's a difference. I'm going to email Stan at VaporStrike, and see if he has more comments on this.

Anyone else use a steam cleaner? What's your experience?

Debra :-)


COMMENTS:

Your question is excellent. An old adage is that "actions speak louder than words", and this is particularly true in marketing. Some of the vapor/steam products are excellent and operate as represented while others totally fail and create disappointment. Our Vaporstrike product is being used in Harley Davidson dealers, hospitals, homes, and a variety of places in between.

Steamers and vapor cleaning products operate using the same concept: water is heated and pressurized. The basic differences between steam and vapor are the temperature and moisture content. Vapor is hotter and drier than steam. Its molecules are smaller so they penetrate deeper and, along with the higher temperature, enables more effective cleaning. High end vapor cleaning devices produce "dry steam vapor".

Generally, vapor will clean, sanitize, and deodorize as well as out-perform any other cleaning products. However, I can be much more responsive if you specifically identify your cleaning challenges and how they're presently being addressed.

Inexpensive steam cleaners use a small bottle containing water to make steam. The bottle empties on average in approximately 15 minutes and operations stop. Since the steamer is operating under heat and pressure, it must be allowed to cool down and depressurize before the empty bottle can be removed and refilled, which typically takes another 15 + minutes. Serious injuries can result if the bottle is removed while under pressure. Cleaning capabilities are extremely limited because of the nature of the device.

Many vapor cleaning products likewise stop operating when their reservoirs are empty, and the user must go through the same cool-down and depressurization process of waiting.

The best vapor cleaning systems have the capability of producing "continuous vapor" so there is no "down-time" in the cleaning process. The unit notifies the user when its reservoir is low on water and more can be added without interrupting the job. This is possible because these units have separate reservoirs and boilers: water is added to the reservoir which feeds theboiler where the water is heated and pressurized to create vapor.

Sincerely,

Stan Galkin
Vaporstrike Vapor Cleaning Systems

POSTED BY STAN GALKIN :: VAPORSTRIKE VAPOR CLEANING SYSTEMS :: WWW.VAPORSTRIKE.COM :: ARIZONA USA :: 11/18/2006 4:15 PM


In our usual way of cleaning, dirt is flushed or washed away, and I am wondering where the dirt, mold,etc, goes when using steam/vapor cleaning. Can someone clear this up, I have looked at the cleaning products websites, but don't see anything that would answer that.

POSTED BY MARGO :: NORTH CAROLINA USA :: 11/21/2006 2:02 PM


Regarding the Steam Cleaners - my concern is the same as Margo's. When you steam away the Mold/Mildew in your bathroom or steam away the scum around your sink we are then inhaling those mold spores, etc. making them enter our respiratory system much easier than traditional cleaning methods. The steam does not "kill" those spores/toxins. I have learned alot from Dr. Shoemaker's "Mold Warriors" especially re:MCS & EI patients. The less "disturbed" the mold/mildew the better. It must first be killed by a product and then removed/cleaned but inhaling the live spores as they "rise" in the steam cannot be a good thing. If one suffers w/MCS or EI it is highly probable that mold/mildew are a great source of irritation to their systems and this may not be their best option.

POSTED BY DUFFY591 :: MARYLAND USA :: 11/22/2006 2:37 PM


I can only address these questions relative to our Vaporstrike product. It produces vapor at 297 degrees F which immediately eradicates microorganisms, viruses, mold, mold spores, etc. on contact. It is therefore impossible to inhale harmful residue because the mold and spores are killed once subjected to the vapor. The temperature emulsifies the spores. The dead mold can be washed away or absorbed into a towel, depending on the implement used in the cleaning process. If the concern is that vapor will agitate spores that can then be inhaled, I recommend cleaning the area with an implement that uses a towel through which the vapor is released. This eliminates any agitation and insures immediate eradication of the mold and spores on contact.

Hope this is useful.

POSTED BY STAN GALKIN :: VAPORSTRIKE VAPOR CLEANING SYSTEMS :: WWW.VAPORSTRIKE.COM :: ARIZONA USA :: 11/27/2006 4:04 PM


I recently purchased a steam cleaner for approx $40. I used it to clean my shower and it took forever because I had to stop so often to refill (which involvese letting it cool, filling, and then waiting for it to heat up). But the biggest complaint I have about it is that it is LOUD. My ears were ringing worse than when i've gone to rock concerts.

POSTED BY AM :: VA USA :: 11/28/2006 7:38 PM


Vapor Steam Cleaners are a terrific way to clean green while saving green ($). “Vapor Steam Cleaners: Knowing What You Are Getting and Where It Came From” is a wonderfully helpful article about these green cleaning devices.


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POSTED BY SHF :: :: WWW.EPINIONS.COM/CONTENT_4824670340 :: CA USA :: 07/11/2008 1:08 PM


I am very interested in the drier possibilities of the vapor-type cleaners. I live in a very humid area of the country ( south-east Texas). I have avoided the steam cleaners as I felt they would increase the humidity in my home, which I try to maintain with three dehumidifiers. I went to the vaporstrike website. I liked what I read except for my concern about all the plastic components. Is there potential for outgassing of the plastics when in contact with the very hot vapor? I have MCS and am very reactive to molds and plastics.
Thank you for all that you do, Debra!

COMMENT FROM DEBRA: It would depend on the type of plastic, and I don't know what it is. I think it would be minimal, but if you are very reactive to plastics, it might be too much for you, whereas it wouldn't be for the average person.

POSTED BY JAR :: TEXAS USA :: 10/06/2008 11:36 AM


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