Debra Lynn Dadd

Toxic Plastic Water Bottles

QUESTION:

I have bottled water delivered that is filtered in many ways to produce pure H2O -- I am concerned about this pure water absorbing higher levels of plastic and the type of plastic. The delivery company states:

"If you are wondering about plastics leaching into the water then please read on. Any kind of plastic is susceptible to leaching into the water. Polycarbonate is a much harder plastic than PET, therefore the leach rates are much lower. The only container that doesn't leach anything into the water is glass - which is not widely available because of the danger factors mentioned above.

The reality is that the leach rates from polycarbonate are far below government guidelines. There were a few kooky studies that have never been able to be replicated by anyone other than the original author that said that leaching was a major issue with certain types of bottles. Those studies have been discredited numerous times but internet links remain.

One of the building blocks of polycarbonate is a plastic called bisphenol-a. If you're highly inquisitive or have a scientific background, I would suggest that you visit the following website. It has a ton of real, scientifically verifiable information on the topic. www.bisphenol-a.org/"

The studies are contradictory and I am concerned about the interests behind the large scale studies that were performed.

I would like to know your position on BPA and these polycarbonate bottles for water [Note: polycarbonate bottles are used for single-serving sales of bottled water too. --D] Also, is there a level that may be acceptable?

POSTED BY P.D. :: FLORIDA USA :: 04/05/2005


DEBRA'S ANSWER:

You're question poses one of those common dilemmas that often come up when choosing nontoxic products: Who do we believe and how do we choose?

I went to the website with "a ton of real, scientifically verifiable information" on BPA. The purpose of that website seemed to be to prove that BPA is safe.

I also went to the website maintained by the authors of Our Stolen Future: How We Are Threatening Our Fertility, Intelligence and Survival, who are continuously searching the scientific literature for information on endochrine disruptors. The Our Stolen Future page on bisphenol-a gives a whole page of links to scientific studies that show that BPA damages the endocrine system in a variety of ways.

My position is always "better safe than sorry," particularly when there are other options.

You ask if there is a level of leaching that may be acceptable. To who? A healthy male? A woman? A child? The elderly? And how would you know how much leaching has occurred in the water? It could easily vary from day to day depending on how long the water had been in the bottle, whether or not the sun was shining on the bottle in the delivery truck, and a variety of other factors.

I'm concerned enough about the possible danger of BPA that I am no longer purchasing bottled water in plastic bottles.

My best recommendation is to get a good water filter that is right for your water and filter your water at home. That way there is no questionable leaching at all. Even though this may be expensive, it is one of the best investments you can make in your health and will save thousands of dollars in medical expenses in the long run.

It's also important to remember that we constantly are making trade-offs in order to get the best benefits. If your choice was to drink this pure water in the polycarbonate bottle or drink tap water, I would say drink the pure water in the polycarbonate bottle. If you had the choice to purchase your own water filter, I would say that it would be better still. If the choice was drink tap water or no water at all, I would say drink the tap water.

For those of you who carry or purchase water in the small, single-serving polycarbonate bottles, you can purchase plastic-free refillable bottles.

It's a good idea, particularly in the summertime, to carry clean water with you, as your body needs water throughout the day for good health. The Mayo Clinic suggests you divide your weight in half and drink that many ounces of water every day. So if you weigh 128 pounds, that would be 64 ounces or 8 8-ounce glasses of water per day. It's better to carry your own clean water in a safe container than drink tap water or water in a plastic bottle.

Debra :-)


COMMENTS:

Klean Kanteen makes a metal water bottle that is sold at REI and other outdoor-sy stores. You can get it online as well, just Google it.

POSTED BY MARISSA :: OREGON USA :: 06/04/2007 4:09 PM


Klean products are made in China where there are not many green standards. Buying products from China also encourages outsourcing of US jobs and encouraging China's dangerous growth which is building 1-2 dirty coal fired power plants per week to keep up with their energy demands. Buy local! Buy green!

POSTED BY BKGREEN :: UTAH USA :: 11/05/2007 2:36 PM


This week bisphenol A was in the news. A new study showed that heating the bottles resulted in the bottle releasing 55 times more bisphenol A.

USA TODAY: Heat causes chemical to leach from plastic

Debra :-)

POSTED BY DEBRA LYNN DADD :: DEBRA LYNN DADD :: WWW.DLD123.COM :: FLORIDA USA :: 02/02/2008 4:32 AM


I have been using Klean Kanteens to carry my water but they have fallen and now have dents. I would think that the protective coating has been damaged and wonder if there is metal leaching into my water?

COMMENT FROM DEBRA: There may be. You should contact the manufacturer and ask.

POSTED BY SUSAN :: CALIFORNIA USA :: 03/09/2008 5:41 PM


Please avoid the Polycarbonate sports water bottles. Over time they leach bisphenol A (BPA). I was poisoned by my water bottle. It was delivering more BPA than my body could tolerate. My doctor wanted to do surgery. Once I stopped drinking from the #7 / PC bottle, my symptoms stopped. Over time, these bottles look indestructible, however, they continue to break down and provide a dosage of BPA. The industry has been trying to spin this issue for years. Multiple states have current bills in front of their legislators in an effort to at least get this substance banned from children's products (including baby bottles and formula cans). 100% of the research by independent studies shows a large health concern. Only industry studies state they see no health issue with this substance.

POSTED BY LOLA :: MA USA :: 03/10/2008 3:29 PM


What about the SIGG water bottles? I know they, too have a coating but according to literature I've read they are safe. They don't make the water taste like metal, either.

POSTED BY LINDYB :: CALIFORNIA USA :: 03/17/2008 9:45 PM


Lola said: "Please avoid the Polycarbonate sports water bottles. Over time they leach bisphenol A (BPA). I was poisoned by my water bottle. It was delivering more BPA than my body could tolerate. My doctor wanted to do surgery. Once I stopped drinking from the #7 / PC bottle, my symptoms stopped."

What were your symptoms, Lola? And what did the doctor want to do surgery for?

POSTED BY KATHY :: CALIFORNIA USA :: 03/19/2008 1:03 PM


We have water delivered to our home from a water delivery company who sells various types. We get the only water which is bottled in glass containers: Mountain Valley Spring Water. It is from the hot springs of Arkansas, is rich in minerals. It comes in a 5 gallon container and we drink only from glass containers.
Lisa

POSTED BY LAUSLEY :: FL USA :: 03/19/2008 1:05 PM


Kathy in california ,what does it mean when you said you drank out of #7/ pc bottle , Please tell me the other dangerous #s so i am not sure if its safe to drnk from any plastic waterbottles please get back to me ASAP

COMMENT FROM DEBRA: Explanations of different numbers of plastics and their toxicity can be found at The Toxicity of Plastic. You'll find the number molded into the bottom of the bottle or container.

POSTED BY SCOTT :: NJ USA :: 04/10/2008 12:59 PM


Susan in California,

Hi. Klean Kanteens do not have "protective coatings" inside them. They are made from food grade stainless steel and need no inner lining. So, your bottle can have as many dents as you fancy, with no difference in water quality. The type of stainless steel used does not leach and it's likely safer than what would be used to line the inside anyway (except maybe glass). I wouldn't worry about the dents, they just add character :)

POSTED BY FJ :: WASHINGTON USA :: 05/19/2008 8:42 PM


I am in a quandary---I've been using Kleen Kanteens and Sigg bottles for my kids' lunches for a few years. I was just about to install a Reverse Osmosis water system in the house we've just rented but have read that while considered a superior water filter system, R.O. water can leech when used in stainless steel. Also, both of my children (ages 11 and 17) have complained that the water tastes "metallic". Yikes, Do I give them "inferior" water in the metal containers they now have or do I install the Reverse Osmosis filter and use plastic bottles? If I do use plastic ones, which are considered (at least at this point in time) the "safest"? Thanks to anyone and everyone with suggestions!

COMMENT FROM DEBRA: This is a quandary, but there are other options. Do you really need Reverse Osmosis? What are you trying to remove? Maybe all you need is a carbon filter and that wouldn't leach.

POSTED BY B. LEE :: CALIFORNIA USA :: 05/19/2008 9:11 PM


Can you please tell me about why RO water would leach in stainless steel if it is suppose to be the safest grade? We have RO and we remineralize it with fulvic mineral complex to put the minerals back in. RO is just dead water and I wouldn't think it would draw anything out. Possibly putting the minerals back in would help? Any further advice?

COMMENT FROM DEBRA: RO water leaches stainless steel precisely because is is dead water--it is looking for minerals to make it alive. So adding minerals stops the leaching. If you are going to drink RO water it is imparitive to remineralize it.

POSTED BY ALLISON :: OHIO USA :: 06/09/2008 10:38 AM


We are currently renting our home and do not want to put in a water filter. We are looking into the delivery of water in glass bottles (5 gallon with dispenser, hopefully distilled). Does anyone know any hidden dangers with 5 gallon glass bottles for water dispensing?

Thank You,
MTonsmeire

POSTED BY MICHELLE :: FLORIDA USA :: 11/24/2008 12:03 PM


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