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Debra Lynn Dadd
Need Help With Kitchen Reno!QUESTION: I find myself overwhelmed with choices for an eco kitchen reno. It seems that either solid wood cabinetry or cabinet boxes made of strawboard with solid wood
fronts are the only eco options. I've tried re-covering used cabinets from the paper, but they are always in really bad shape.
Further, are granite or soapstone the best environmental options for countertops, and doesn't it depend on the granite's source?
My kitchen is falling apart and I'm afraid to take one step forward!
Thanks for any help you can offer, and I really love your newsletter.
POSTED BY V. L. :: BRITISH COLUMBIA CANADA :: 10/19/2004 3:05 PM DEBRA'S ANSWER:
There ARE are lot of choices for eco kitchens, more even than you list.
Green Home Guide has a great article that outlines all the possibilities for countertops, and gives some resources. The best environmental option isn't necessarily granite or soapstone--I once redid my entire kitchen with salvage gray marble slabs at $5 a square foot. Eco-options for countertops include tiles made from various recycled materials, too.
Both your choices for cabinetry sound fine. There are more options--such as metal cabinets, but wood is much more aesthetic. Consider having cabinets custom-built. I know that sounds expensive, but I had a local cabinetmaker build all the cabinets in my California kitchen with solid wood and my choice of finish, and the total cost installed was less than if I had purchased particleboard cabinets from Home Depot. So check around.
There are no single products that are "the best" choice for everyone. In a personal one-on-one phone consultation, I can help you choose the kitchen reno products that are right for you.
Debra :-)
COMMENTS: Debra,
I noticed your comment about having your own kitchen cabinets made from a local cabinetmaker using solid wood. I cannot imagine how that is possible. Virtually all cabinetry I know of is made from either particleboard, MDF or plywood for the cases and drawer boxes. Even solid wood drawer boxes have a plywood bottom. Of course, the doors, drawer faces and face frames can be made from solid lumber but that constitutes a very small portion of the actual assembled cabinet.
In order to eliminate the maximum amount of formaldehyde off-gassing, I would suggest finding cabinets made from agriboard having no added formaldehyde. Several companies are now producing such boards and research continues to develop even better applications. For example, recently a soy protein based resin has been patented by Oregon State University. This resin is all natural and has ZERO off-gassing. It has subsequently been licensed out to a wood manufacturer and plywood and veneers are now being made with this new product very successfully.
During the assembly process of cabinetry, water based low VOC glues and adhesives are also now available. To round out the sustainable/healthy equation, FSC certified lumber for the solid wood parts are now available in most species.
COMMENT FROM DEBRA: I beg to differ. I actually did have cabinets custom built in California from solid wood--pine--that had no particleboard, plywood, or any other kind of board other than solid pine. Otherwise, I appreciate and agree with the rest of your comments. POSTED BY RICK FIELDS :: :: WWW.NEILKELLYCABINETS.COM :: OREGON USA :: 10/20/2006 9:05 PM
Our cabinet maker was told that I needed a counter top made from plywood due to the off-gassing of osb board. When our kithen was installed the counter tops were made with marine grade osb. Is this any better than the regular osb or do I need to get another counter top? Since the kitchen has been installed my eyes begin to burn when I enter into the new kitchen.
COMMENT FROM DEBRA: I don't have the details on the difference between osb and marine grade osb offhand, however, if you are having symptoms, it should be replaced, an replaced at the cabinetmaker's expense, since he did not give you the material you specified.
This gives me an opportunity to remind everyone to give specifications to contractors IN WRITING and specify these are the exact specifications and no substitutions are allow without written agreement.
POSTED BY HELEN :: PENNSYLVANIA USA :: 07/08/2008 4:17 PM
Hi,
I have posted a few questions about the cabinets I painted with oil-based paint.
We have decided to remove the oil based paint with soy gel paint remover and are almost done with this task. By we, I mean my boyfriend. I cannot go home at the moment.
Now, I am scared to put anything on them for fear I will recontaminate my home.
Here are my questions:
1. If we remove the paint with soy gel paint remover and clean them with AFM's Safe Clean, can we just leave them bare (not pretty but I could go home), OR would minute vocs or chems still leach from the unfinished once painted wood?
2. If we need to cover them to conceal in existing VOCs or chems left on wood, wood AFMs Acrylaq be a good choice. It has 106 grams per liter of VOCs and is meant to seal in existing vocs from other products.
Is there a better option?
If this does not work, we will tear them out but do not have money to replace them, so I want to make the best decision.
Thanks,
Lisa POSTED BY LISA :: OHIO USA :: 09/30/2008 10:33 AM
RE: Lisa's comment about oil based paint removed from cabinets w/soy gel product.
You may need to do a sanding on the cabinets after the paint is removed in order to get rid of all of the chemicals from the paint.
Can you take them out of the house for awhile to get a baseline of how you feel in house w/o the cabinets?
If moving them back into the house exacerbates your symptoms, it would probably be best to get rid of them.
If you do okay with the unsealed cabinets you could take them out again and seal with a PRE-TESTED safer sealer.
If someone could apply several different kinds of safer sealers right now to the same type of boards that the cabinets are made of, you would be ahead in the testing process.
Some EIs become sensitive to safer paints and sealers if they are exposed to them before they have had time to gas off.
Many people w/EI react to AFM paints and sealers. I certainly do.
Very best of luck.
POSTED BY ANNIQUE :: COLORADO USA :: 11/11/2008 1:27 PM
My husband and I own a custom cabinetry business also. It is possible to purchase cabinetry that is entirely made from wood, with no artificial materials or outgassing. And yes, low voc glues are also available. Something that needs to be noted about the plywood often used, there ARE sealers available that can be applied at the shop when the cabinets are made and by the time they are installed, there is no more outgassing, or smell. We have investigated and researched all of this information as an increasing number of people want this option.
And all solid wood materials might be a bit more expensive, but you have to figure in the cost to your health, the fact that you are getting a higher quality product for very much the same price as if you were to go to Lowe's, Home Depot, etc. We've had a number of clients do both...and wish that they had us do all of it. POSTED BY SUSAN :: COLORADO USA :: 11/16/2008 4:38 PM
How about painting the stripped cupboards with milk paint? There is a brand called Old Fashioned Milk Paint that comes in a powder that you mix with water, and there are many colors from which to choose. I understand the longer this paint sets up the more durable it is, and it can even be used outdoors. POSTED BY SARA :: MICHIGAN USA :: 11/17/2008 12:09 PM :: POST YOUR COMMENT
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