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Debra Lynn Dadd
Is This Scouring Powder Toxic?QUESTION: Thanks for all the great data! Do you know about a powder cleaner named Bar Keepers Friend? It\'s like Bon Ami but works much better and I don\'t get any toxic reaction from it like Ajax, etc. Do you know if it\'s non-toxic? Thanks!!
POSTED BY P. N. :: CALIFORNIA USA :: 09/05/2006 1:31 PM DEBRA'S ANSWER:
I looked up the MSDS sheet for Bar Keepers Friend and under "Hazardous Ingredients" is listed oxalic acid.
Oxolic acid is one of the strongest organic acids. Though it is abundantly present in many plants, most (notably lamb's quarters, rhubarb and sorrel), it can irritate the lining of the intesines when consumed, and can be fatal in large doses. Still, we all eat some oxalic acid in common foods every day with no ill effects, including black pepper, parsley, spinach, chard, beets, chocolate, most nuts, most berries, and beans.
Though the Bar Keeper's Friend MSDS warns only of irritation. Here is the safety data from the oxalic acid MSDS:
POISON! DANGER! MAY BE FATAL IF SWALLOWED. CORROSIVE. CAUSES SEVERE IRRITATION AND BURNS TO SKIN, EYES, AND RESPIRATORY TRACT. HARMFUL IF INHALED OR ABSORBED THROUGH SKIN. MAY CAUSE KIDNEY DAMAGE.
SAF-T-DATA(tm) Ratings (Provided here for your convenience)
Health Rating: 4 - Extreme (Poison)
Flammability Rating: 1 - Slight
Reactivity Rating: 1 - Slight
Contact Rating: 3 - Severe (Corrosive)
Lab Protective Equip: GOGGLES & SHIELD; LAB COAT & APRON; VENT HOOD; PROPER GLOVES
Storage Color Code: White (Corrosive)
Potential Health Effects
Oxalic acid is corrosive to tissue. When ingested, oxalic acid removes calcium from the blood. Kidney damage can be expected as the calcium is removed from the blood in the form of calcium oxalate. The calcium oxalate then obstructs the kidney tubules.
Inhalation:
Harmful if inhaled. Can cause severe irritation and burns of nose, throat, and respiratory tract.
Ingestion:
Toxic! May cause burns, nausea, severe gastroenteritis and vomiting, shock and convulsions. May cause renal damage, as evidenced by bloody urine. Estimate fatal dose is 5 to 15 grams.
Skin Contact:
Can cause severe irritation, possible skin burns. May be absorbed through the skin.
Eye Contact:
Oxalic acid is an eye irritant. It may produce corrosive effects.
Chronic Exposure:
May cause inflammation of the upper respiratory tract. Prolonged skin contact can cause dermatitis, cyanosis of the fingers and possible ulceration. May affect kidneys.
Aggravation of Pre-existing Conditions:
Persons with pre-existing skin disorders or eye problems, or impaired kidney or respiratory function may be more susceptible to the effects of the substance.
Oxalic acid is a powder, so there are no chemical gasses to be concerned about, but if you are shaking the powder in the air, small amounts could get in your nose or eyes and cause irritation. And, since you are not ingesting it, there is no danger of poisoning (but keep it away from children and pets).
Personally, I would stick with Bon Ami or just use baking soda. There's no need to use a product with more toxic ingredients when safer products are available.
Yet, if you find this product to work better, it probably contains so little oxalic acid that it wouldn't cause any effect greater than irriation, as stated in the MSDS sheet.
Debra :-)
COMMENTS: Just a side note on Bar Keeper's Friend -
I'm very allergic to calcium carbonate found in Bon Ami, cement, toothpaste, mineral supplements...long list... My doctor said that chemically sensitive people are usually not sensitive to calcium carbonate but I certainly am. We had to seal our garage floor, use calcium carb. free toothpaste... I can't be around unsealed cement - I somehow breathe its fumes!
COMMENT FROM DEBRA: I just want to be clear that this is an individual sensitivity--and people with MCS can individually be sensitive to virtually anything. Calcium carbonate is a natural mineral and not considered toxic.
POSTED BY SHARI VANENKEVORT :: WASHINGTON USA :: 09/05/2006 3:51 PM
My cook bought me a can of Barkeepers Friend. It is so much more expensive than Bon Ami, but rather than fuss about it, I decided to keep it and I'll use it for rust stains when I move from this apartment. Needs.com sells Heather's oxygen bleach cleanser and I thought it worked well for berry stains on a porcelain sink. I keep meaning to try baking soda as a cleanser. POSTED BY MARY :: CA USA :: 09/05/2006 11:26 PM
Baking soda, natural dish soap, Seventh Generation hydrogen peroxide used together, plus scrubbing, do a good job of ridding stains in my white sink. POSTED BY SHARI VANENKEVORT :: WASHINGTON USA :: 09/07/2006 4:10 PM :: POST YOUR COMMENT
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