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Debra Lynn Dadd
Types of Wood FlooringQUESTION: We want to replace carpeting in our daughter's bedroom. She is chemically sensitive and so we were comparing prefinished wood flooring with laminate wood flooring. At our local Lowe's store we saw Bruce wood floor and a Pergo laminate. Is the laminate more toxic than the wood ? We hope to use a kind that needs neither gluing or nailing. The laminate is thicker for about the same price. Would it be more toxic? We have also found an engineered hardwood Bruce flooring that does not require nailing or gluing. Since it is engineered, does that present any outgassing problems? Also if it requires laying foam underneath, would that present a challenge to the chemically sensitive since it would be sealed under the flooring? POSTED BY R. W. :: SOUTH CAROLINA USA :: 07/12/2005 DEBRA'S ANSWER:
I went down to my local Lowe's and looked at all of these floorings. First, let's just clear up what all these different types of flooring are. Solid wood flooring is one piece of wood top to bottom. Generally it is nailed to a wood subfloor. Most prefinished solid wood flooring I've seen has been nontoxic--the finish is applied at the factory and baked on. Engineered flooring is made up of layers of wood stacked and glued under heat and pressure. It can be installed over most subfloors. The Bruce engineered flooring 6626 I examined at Lowe's just smelled like wood to me. It did not seem especially toxic. Some engineered floors require plastic foam installed underneath. I wasn't able to find out what type of plastic is used to make the foam underlayment. While it didn't seem particularly toxic in the store, I've had experiences in the past where people purchased flooring thinking it was safe from a small sample, only to find that a roomful or a houseful was pretty toxic. As always, my best advice is to avoid plastics whenever possible, particularly when other safer products are available. A floating floor is not attached to the floor, except around the edges. It does not require glue, however, glue is not a problem if you choose a nontoxic type, such as yellow woodworker's glue. Laminate flooring is made up of various layers of material laminated together. There's a good illustration of what laminate flooring is made up of on the Armstrong website. Basically, laminate flooring is high-density fiberboard, covered by an "image layer" that makes it look like wood, topped with a protective layer of plastic. It is an inexpensive, easy-care alternative to wood and waxing that can be installed over any subfloor. It won't last as long as wood we are still walking on the original oak floors installed in our home over 65 years ago and the finish feels like plastic. It's basically a fake wood floor. The one MSDS sheet I looked at showed that brand of laminate flooring emitted formaldehyde fumes, so all in all, I don't recommend laminate flooring. That said, a friend of mine recently installed a laminate floor all through her living room and it didn't smell horrible. I've always had success using prefinished hardwood flooring and water-based yellow woodworker's glue. Right now Lowe's is selling a prefinished hardwood parquet flooring for about $1.30 a square foot, which is pretty good comparatively. It's Cryntel 12" x 12" Solid Hardwood Parquet Flooring Item #: 53578 sorry, their website won't let me link to the page. Debra :-)
COMMENTS: In a previous posting you explained that you don't reccomend laminate flooring due to it's emission of formaldehyde fumes. This would obviously cause serious problems for anyone with pre-existing respiritory problems.
What can be done if a laminate floor has been installed in the home of someone with respiritory difficulties? Are there any ways to reduce or elimitate the formaldyhyde outgassing if ripping up the new flooring is not an option?
COMMENT FROM DEBRA: I contacted AFM Enterprises to see which of their sealants would be appropriate to use on a laminate floor and they said, "Safecoat Polyureseal BP over a sanded lamninate has been successfully done. Poly Bp is a good emissions
controller." I wanted to make sure that the sealant would stick to that laminate finish. Make sure to sand the laminate flooring first, taking care to contain the dust, which would be full of plastic particles.
POSTED BY RICHARD :: TENNESSEE USA :: 10/19/2006 3:17 AM
Dear Debra,
Thank you for all your helpful information!
My husband and I are going to do some updating of our 25 year old flooring and kitchen cabinets. Although neither of us are particularly chemically sensitive (that we know of anyway), we have been trying to convert to less toxic options when possible and affordable. We have used your information as we research flooring that would work for our budget and house situation. I am still unclear, however, which are longer term toxic concerns (we may have children in the next few years) and which are concerns only as long as they smell (which is the VOC rating?). You mentioned the Bruce engineered hardwood not seeming particularly toxic based on smell--would that be a fair test for us to use as well? Or how would we know if there is toxicity apart from smell?
Also, I looked at the Greenguard certificate for a Wilsonart laminate flooring which rated "Formaldehyde" at <0.05 ppm (<0.06 mg/m). If formaldehyde is listed on the MSDS, under what number, (if any), would you feel comfortable for 'formaldehyde'? We could do a Bruce engineered hardwood for less cost than a Wilsonart laminate that is Greenguard certified. Basically, if the Bruce engineered hardwood doesn't smell, is that ok to use? And is there a possibility that it is less toxic overall than the Wilsonart laminate?
Thanks for your help!
COMMENT FROM DEBRA: First, about the Greenguard rating. I would contact Greenguard to confirm this, but if the rating is <0.05 ppm, that's less than 0.05 ppm. That must be the threshold at which they feel the exposure would be insignificant. It may be zero.
But, since it would be more in your budget to use the Bruce floor, call them or check their MSDS for offgassing. My experience has been that I don't use materials that emit toxic chemicals that I can smell. I do rely on my "sniff test" and find it to be quite reliable for me.
You may also want to buy a few pieces and bring them home and live with them for a few days.
POSTED BY AP :: NEW MEXICO USA :: 08/06/2007 3:58 PM
I found online, a non toxic padding for wood floor but I don't have the website... Do a search under those words.
Thanks for t he info on the hardwood from lowes. I'm chem sensitive and will check out the solid parquet. POSTED BY JOYCEK :: CALIFORNIA USA :: 08/27/2007 1:34 PM
We're building a number of very green homes and are researching flooring. We've had some good and bad experiences with bamboos, strand bamboos, solid and engineered.
The first issue is what you are installing the floor on. If it's concrete go with strand bamboo or engineered. If there is a wood subfloor you can use about anything.
The next thing you have to do is buy a box of the wood from your supplier to test in the house. Not only have we been surprised at how different the colors and grains are in the house we've been shocked at the amount of very odorific off gassing from supposedly green and non-toxic wood products. Even if the MSDS says there is no formaldehyde or other chemicals you don't want we've found the actual product was different.
There's been enough surprises that we just can't risk large orders without trying a box at a cost of $100 to $200 per box. This has saved us several times from design and/or environmental mistakes. POSTED BY DAVID EDERER :: :: WWW.MANDALACLUB.COM :: FLORIDA USA :: 08/27/2007 1:54 PM
POSTED BY STEVE F. :: OREGON USA :: 01/14/2008 2:30 PM
If you have any chemical sensitivity at all, do not choose laminate flooring. We made that mistake in our last house. The cleaner they recommended gave me a dreadful 3-day headache that made me feel very sick, and my head ached and throbbed constantly. For the next full year plus, the toxic chemicals came up through the floor, through my socks, and through my rubber soled slippers into my feet and halfway up my calves. It felt awful. Even over a rug that we laid in the living room. That was after numerous cleanings with water & vinegar. The toxic cleaner was long gone. It was in the laminate. Did I ever regret laying that awful laminate. It was Armstrong and an expensive one. Not a cheap laminate. It also looked horrible. Never a speck of shine. So much for a satin finish. It looked dull and lifeless. Horrible stuff. Horrible mistake. We sold the house - practically gave it away actually. Moved far away. Don't make the same mistake. You'll regret it.
COMMENT FROM DEBRA: I've been saying this over and over...don't buy laminate!
POSTED BY SUZANNE CLOSE :: ARIZONA USA :: 03/09/2008 5:43 PM
We are installing laminate floors in our home now, and I would like to say that having the laminate sit in your home for a few days to see if you detect any chemicals or if you have a reaction is not a good idea. We had the laminate flooring sit in our house for almost a week, before the installation began and I did not have a reaction until they started cutting and installing the boards. When I went into a room that had the laminate recently installed my lungs started hurting and it felt like my air passages were constricting. My ears also itched and I developed congestion in my head. I've been researching what to do and so far have found that keeping the windows in your house open will help, but today the outside temperature is in the 30 degree F range so that is not an option. I bought an air cleaner, but it does not seem to be helping. I hope the problem improves or we may be selling our home.
COMMENT FROM DEBRA: I've been saying over and over DON'T BUY LAMINATE.
POSTED BY SUE R :: NORTH CAROLINA USA :: 11/24/2008 12:15 PM
We recently purchased a house so have been having painting done and installed hardwood floors in two bedrooms. We used the Benjamin Moore no VOC paint so that smell hasn't been too bad, but since we have installed the floors there has been a fairly strong odor.
We bought Armstrong hardwood floors (to match the floor that was already in the house) that is California 93120 HWPW compliant for formaldehyde Phase 2, which I am told means it contains less than .05 formaldehyde, and just smelt like wood when I smelled a single piece.
We used Stauf's WFR930 alcohol based wood floor adhesive (which I didn't realize until after the fact that they made adhesives with no VOC's that were not water-based, I was told my warranty would be void if I used water-based because they have had problems with the wood staying down).
The installer told me the odor would not be too bad, but I am finding otherwise. It has been a week since the floors were installed and I still smell a fairly strong odor, at least for me with a sensative nose.
We have been trying to leave the windows open as much as possible, with safety and weather temperatures considered. I can not tell now what the smell is (the floors or the adhesive), but it makes my nose burn. I am particularly concerned because one of the rooms is my 2 year old daughter's bedroom. She doesn't have a chemical sensitivity, that I know of, but I am worried about the chemicals effecting her long term health and development. People tell me I am overreacting. What do you think?
Is the harm from the chemicals gone once the smell is gone? How long will that take? Now I am wishing I would have just installed a "green" carpet.
COMMENT FROM DEBRA: I can't tell you how long it will take for the smell to go away. It depends on the toxicity of the adhesive and the temperature and humidity of the room. My best advice is to "bake" the rooms with heat to speed the drying of the adhesive.
POSTED BY MELISSA :: TEXAS USA :: 03/09/2009 9:26 PM
I saw that someone mentioned two options for covering cement floors, and I wanted to throw out a third one--natural cork. We finished our basement (which is dry) and used natural cork for the flooring. It requires a thin plastic sheet to cover the cement first and then the cork squares fit together without glue or nails. Looks beautiful, is quite durable and has a very mild natural cork smell. And, it was quite affordable. POSTED BY AMY TODISCO :: GREEN LIVNG NOW :: WWW.GREENLIVINGNOW.COM :: VERMONT USA :: 03/16/2009 2:38 PM :: POST YOUR COMMENT
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