Debra Lynn Dadd

fragrance free deodorants

QUESTION:

Hi Debra, Thanks for all your useful information...I am looking for a deoderant that is fragrance free. The ones I have looked at even though they claim to be unscented have either a fragrance or masking fragrance and the ones at the health food store are with an herbal or essential oil odor, so do you know of any that are truly fragrance free? Thanks Sandy

POSTED BY SVW :: WASHINGTON USA :: 09/19/2006 3:17 PM


DEBRA'S ANSWER:

Aside from using baking soda, the purest deodorant products I know of are made by Deodorant Stones of America.
They made deodorants products from pure potassium alum (there's a difference between aluminum and alum "without the addition of chemicals, fragrances, oils or alcohol". It comes in a stone, stick, spray, roll-on, and powder. It is marketed under several brand names, including Thai Crystal, Pure & Natural, Crystal Orchid, Nature's Crystal, and Nature's Pearl.

Readers, please let us know what unscented deodorants you use and like.

Debra :-)


COMMENTS:

At first I was skeptical that it would hold me, but for the last three years I have been using the all natural Thai Crytsal deodorant. No odor or fragrance whatsoever. It's a salt stone crystal and usually lasts for about a year.

POSTED BY LB :: NORTH CAROLINA USA :: 09/19/2006 3:26 PM


Hi Sandy,
There is one that I know of (Miessence Aroma Free) that many of my customers use and say it is effective. I do not use the aroma free one myself, I use the Tahitian breeze deodorant. There are no essential oils in it and it works based on the testimonials I have gotten from my customers.

the ingredients list for the Aromoa free one:
Purified water (aqua), organic aloe vera (aloe barbadensis) leaf juice, sodium bicarbonate, non-gmo xanthan gum, honeysuckle (lonicera japonica) extract. 89% Organic Product.

Regards,
Erin

POSTED BY ERIN :: MIESSENCE CERTIFIED ORGANICS :: WWW.ELYORGANICS.COM :: OREGON USA :: 09/19/2006 4:31 PM


The best natural deodorant I have found is plain old Milk of Magnesia. It works better and longer for me than the Thai stones I've used for years. It does not stop the sweat glands from fulfilling their function, but it does keep away that nasty sweat odor.

POSTED BY JOE :: OKLAHOMA USA :: 09/21/2006 5:50 AM


Re: Frangrance-free deodorants
I have been using the stone for almost a year now & am pleased with the results. On very hot days I have reapplied during the day, although not because of odor, but because of intense persperation & I thought maybe it would be a good idea. The stone is almost the same size as when I purchased it, even after all this time. At that rate, I would guess it would last 5 years or more.

POSTED BY DEANNA :: TENNESSEE USA :: 09/21/2006 9:43 AM


Hi everyone,

I am looking for, and have had a real hard time finding, an organic, fragrance-free deo that is more of a powder-based versus all the other gel-based ones I keep seeing. They go on very tacky for me and it drives me crazy. I either don't use anything or usually end up using the no-no's. I'm not concerned about price.

COMMENT FROM DEBRA: There's always baking soda, which I have been recommending and used for years. If it's too rough, mix it with cornstarch until it is comfortable for you. Easy and inexpensive. I only stopped using it because I like the natural fragrance deodorants (I usually choose lavender).

POSTED BY DEB WINNETTE :: MICHIGAN USA :: 10/13/2006 2:09 PM


The baking soda was working great for me and my husband until my armpits turned grey. His armpits turned grey with the thai stick. Any ideas on why this would happen?

COMMENT FROM DEBRA: I've never heard of this and I used baking soda for well over 15 years. My husband's armpits aren't grey and he still uses baking soda--over 19 years now. Has anyone else experienced this?

POSTED BY NOEL :: NORTH CAROLINA USA :: 10/17/2006 11:00 AM


I've been using baking soda as a deodorant for about five years, and I absolutely love it. Not even commercial antiperspirants kept me this odour-free. I never had my armpits turn grey, but I did have a problem initially with my armpits getting very dry and red. I started using much less baking soda than I had been, and rubbing sesame or olive oil into my skin before applying the baking soda, which cleared up the problem.

POSTED BY MICHELLE :: ONTARIO CANADA :: 10/19/2006 4:40 AM


I use Pure and Basic Natural Green Tea deodorant. It's a stick. No oder, no problems. Katy

POSTED BY KATY :: LOUISIANA USA :: 10/23/2006 2:09 PM


Unable to use any commercial deodorants, and not wanting to use any product with aluminum or alum, I began using baking soda and cornstarch a few years ago...after worrying about the salt in i.e. the Thai stick. I have had swollen nodes in my armpits the entire time and finally researched. I read that up to 50% of people with allergies are allergic to corn products, and that baking soda may cause hypertension (high blood pressure).

So I'm back to zero.

I have severe MCS. Has anyone found anything new? The Guide on this site from Terressentials is excellent; but I can't find anything natural that works without i.e. hypertension.

COMMENT FROM DEBRA: I did a bit of research on your comment that baking soda may cause hypertension.

I'm not sure where you got that information or how you came to that conclusion. Baking soda does contain a large amount of sodium and hypertension can be aggravated by excessive intake of salt, however, aggravating an existing condition and causing a condition are two different things.

I think it is much more likely that hypertension is cause by the excessive amount of refined sodium chloride that is consumed in our modern diet, rather than the small amount of baking soda. And I have no evidence that hypertension can be cause by applying baking soda to the skin. That's different than eating it.

Baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) is used as a drug (antacid) to relieve heartburn and acid indigestion. As such it is taken in amounts larger than one would encounter in a normal diet. See MedlinePlus Drug Information: Sodium Bicarbonate for effects caused by overingestion.

I'm not concerned about the amount of sodium that might be absorbed from using baking soda as a deodorant. My husband and I used it for years with no ill effects. That said, anyone with MCS should, of course, consider their own personal tolerances when considering using baking soda.


POSTED BY KVT :: OHIO USA :: 03/12/2007 5:45 AM


Yes, Debra, you are correct. I incorrectly used "caused" when I should have more accurately used a word closer to "exacerbated" since I was focused on the result rather than the apparently unstudied, in this case, precise process.

Either WebMD or several similar sites I access regularly yielded cases of persons whose BP was lower when using baking soda as toothpaste, deodorant, antacid, etc. was stopped. In the case of one 52-year-old man it was a marked difference. And if you just google deodorant salts or deodorant salt stones or any combination, there are a few warnings re BP and their usage.

In my case, I stopped using the salt crystal stones a couple of years ago, and when I stop mixing baking soda and corn starch and only use corn starch as a deodorant, within two days the swollen nodes in my armpits are gone. When I re-test by adding the baking soda back, the swollen nodes are back the same or the next day. Of course cornstarch alone does not help the odor as much, corn allergies aside. (Which I don't have.) So, we have tough choices with MCS, and also a paucity of choices with many situations. Sometimes we have to be our own inventor, and try, try, try until something either works or we learn to adapt to a situation we'd rather not. Such is life with MCS. It is important to remember that what works for one person may seriously harm another and be tolerant, not critical, as none of us as far as I know are M.D.s or Environmental Injury experts.

COMMENT FROM DEBRA: I did search as you suggested and still did not find any warnings about using baking soda for deodorant. I found a post from an MD saying what I said--that he's more concerned about salt in the diet for hypertension than baking soda in the armpit. I found a breast cancer website recommending baking soda for deodorant.

And I'd just like to point out there is a BIG difference in the amount of baking soda used for deodorant than antacid, and a difference in the method of exposure. So I wouldn't assume if exposure as an antacid was a problem that exposure as a deodorant or toothpaste would be too. Remember, toxicity has to do with the inherent toxicity of the substance, the method of exposure, the amount of expsure, and the frequency of exposure.

If you could post your exact links, I'll take a look at them.

Meanwhile, I'll take your word for it that baking soda can cause a reaction on the skin and may contribute to hypertension. So, readers, if you are using baking soda for deodorant and have either of these problems, stop the baking soda and see if it improves. Otherwise, I still think baking soda is fine for most people to use as a deodorant or toothpaste.


POSTED BY KVT :: OH USA :: 03/12/2007 9:32 AM


Hi there!

I recently read on a website about virgin coconut oil (don't remember which exactly but try a google search) that a little oil can be rubbed in as a deodorant. It has antibacterial (as well as anti-viral and anti-fungal) effects.

I haven't tried this, but I've been adding virgin coconut oil to smoothies and raw cacao shakes for a while now and also sauteeing with it on the rare occasion that I use the stove. (I am a mostly raw foodist.) I have also used it topically here and there on my hands and lips.

Basically, since I shifted my diet to raw organic 5 years ago, I have stopped using deodorants at all. I used the Thai crystal for a while but then let that go too. It hasn't seemed to be necessary.

The thought is that when your diet is "cleaner", your excretions will become less odorous as well. I guess I have found this to be the case.

I do like the idea of the coconut oil, though. It has such a lovely subtle aroma. I wondered about it getting ones clothes oily, but probably it would be so well-absorbed by the skin that that would not be a problem. One of these days I'll try it, or perhaps someone here will do so and report back.

I hope this may be helpful to someone!

COMMENT FROM DEBRA: I've heard the same about body odor decreasing with a "clean diet". That makes sense to me.


POSTED BY NYGAL :: NEW YORK USA :: 03/26/2007 11:44 AM


Here is a recipe I found a little while back and this is all I've been using for my deoderant (and when I exercise, I SWEAT! lol). Since the baking soda is the active ingredient, just leave the rosewater out. Eventually the tip of the sprayer gets a little gunked up, but can be scrubbed. And this works better to prevent odour, as opposed to trying to get rid of odour that is already there, so applying to clean skin and then keeping on top of it definitely works best. :)

DIY Rose Deodorant Spray

1 cup water
2 tbsp baking soda
1 tbsp rosewater

1. Stir baking soda into water and let it dissolve.
2. Let the mixture sit for 5 minutes and then stir it up again. There is often still some powder that doesn't dissolve and falls to the bottom, so it needs to be stirred up again.
3. Repeat step 2 until you cannot see any powder left into the water (it should be clear).
4. Add the rosewater and stir.
5. Pour into a spray bottle.

To use: spray 2-3 spritzes under each arm once a day.

COMMENT FROM DEBRA: This looks good to me. Thanks for letting us know about another way to apply baking soda. Seems like it would be easier on skin this way, rather than the powder, and can be scented or unscented as one chooses.

POSTED BY CINDI D :: ON CANADA :: 03/26/2007 12:23 PM


I had high blood pressure as a teenager and after doing research about natural treatment for it, I took choline/inistol supplements for about a year. My blood pressure went down to normal and has remained normal since even though I no longer take the supplements. I've been using baking soda as deodorant for nearly a year now and it hasn't affected my blood pressure at all. I just thought I'd add that as a positive point for baking soda. I've found it to be very effective in controlling odor and even reducing wetness. When my husband and I first started using it, we experienced some redness and swelling under the arms. After using it a while, our skin seems to have become accustomed to it.

POSTED BY FAITH :: OKLAHOMA USA :: 03/26/2007 12:35 PM


I have finally found a deodorant that is natural and works. I have chemical sensitivity and have recently found a new deodorant that I love. It is called Alvera Aloe Unscented all natural roll-on deodorant. It really works as a deodorant and antiperspirant and I live in Florida. I found it on an online vitamin store. Good Luck.

COMMENT FROM DEBRA: Couldn't find a manufacturer's website for this product, but just type the name into your favorite search engine and you'll see many sites that sell it.


POSTED BY NINA :: FLORIDA USA :: 02/18/2008 3:53 PM


Hi Debra,
Just in case you are interested. I did find an ingredients list for the Alvera deodorant:

Ingredients:
75% aloe vera gel, herb water (containing arnica, calendula, gentian root and coriander), alcloxa (an allantoin derivative), glyceryl stearate, gum arabic, whole oat protein, witch hazel, grapefruit seed extract, comfrey infusion.

Regards,
Erin

POSTED BY ERIN ELY :: MIESSENCE CERTIFIED ORGANICS :: ELYORGANICS.COM :: OREGON USA :: 02/20/2008 11:28 AM


After reading this helpful and lively exchange re deoderant I decided to make my own mix of coconut oil and baking soda. I made a paste and put it in a jar and I was delighted with the results for about two weeks. Then I got an angry red rash in my armpits. I stopped using it and the rash cleared up in a few days. After rereading this entry, I suspect it is the baking soda. I guess I am one of those super sensitive ones.

POSTED BY SUPERSENSITIVE :: MA USA :: 04/01/2008 8:14 AM


I've been using Logona Free which I order from www.naturaleurope.com. On a scale of 0-10, the scent is less than a one! Logona Free deodorant is a liquid spray made from the crystal. It seems to me there are a number of those on the market. I do find it a tad sticky some days. Also, I don't perspire a lot.

I really like Nutribiotic's natural body and foot powder, scent free. It has tea tree oil in it but I don't smell it. I shake a little on a powder puff but I suppose you can simply shake it into your hand and apply. I find the Logana product more convenient to apply, but since the Nutribiotic isn't sticky, I'll probably be using it more and more.

POSTED BY MERRYSPIRIT :: CA USA :: 04/02/2008 12:21 PM


Almay makes a fragrance free clear gel antiperspirant. It rates a 1 (low) on a scale of 1 to 10 for hazards on the cosmetics safety database.


www.cosmeticsdatabase.com

POSTED BY KIPPERCAT :: TEXAS USA :: 04/10/2008 1:00 PM


Have any of you who use baking soda as a deodorant, found that it leaves a white ring on your shirts? I tried using baking soda for a while but stopped because as soon as I'd sweat (and I sweat a lot) a white ring would appear on the armpits of my clothing. It would be more obvious on darker versus whiter colored clothing. Walking around with white stains on my clothing just wasn't an option for me :-), and I always wondered if anybody else had this problem. Let me know, thank you!

POSTED BY SUZANNE MIKULA :: CALIFORNIA USA :: 06/16/2008 11:24 PM


I love the Thai Crystal Spray. I can't imagine going back to the chemical-laden sticks that I used for so many years.

POSTED BY CJSTEWART :: TEXAS USA :: 06/22/2008 11:47 AM


I was very excited about Thai Crystal by deodorantstones of america. I purchased a roll-on first but noticed that my t-shirts turned grayish underarms. I spoke with the company chemist and he assured me there were no records of anybody complaining of staining and sent me Thai Crystal Deodorant Mist. I like the delivery method better. The deodorant seemed to work quite well for about 5 months, but now it seems like the BO is present and the odor controlling properties last no more than 6 hours! I have never been the "swet drenched" type before. Any suggestions or ideas?

Thanks,

Robert

POSTED BY ROBERT :: VIRGINIA USA :: 07/15/2008 10:18 AM


I've been using Terressentials organic deodorant for quite some time. I use the fragrance free deodorant because my armpits are very sensitive. I tried straight baking soda but, had red streaks form. I'm too paranoid to use the crystal rock deodorants as they contain alum. I sometimes do have a little odor(especially by the end of the day) but, I also live in the south where it's close to or at 100 degress & humid a lot. So far, this is the best one I've found that doesn't make my armpits react & is fairly decent at keeping odor at bay.

POSTED BY NATALIE :: TEXAS USA :: 07/16/2008 1:36 PM


I discovered something quite by accident that works perfectly as a deodorant. I purchased some magnesium oil from my health food store to use for pain and on the instructions, it said to put half magnesium oil and half water into a spray bottle and spray under the armpits for a deodorant. Since using that, I've had no underarm smell at all. I do still sweat under there but have NO odor and my underarm smell before using that was quite strong.

If you google "Magnesium oil+deodorant" you will be able to read more about it.

Martha

POSTED BY MARTHA NYGAARD :: NEW MEXICO USA :: 07/29/2008 6:27 AM


Because I work very closely with several people who have varying levels of MCS finding a truly fragrance free deodorant that works has been essential. I think I have tried ever unscented one out there. I just found a new one the other day made by Lafe's. I got the unscented although they did have several other options. This deordant is not only the most unscented that I have ever used it is doing very well holding up to the Arizona summer.

POSTED BY KAREN :: KARENSNATURALS.COM :: KARENSNATURALS.COM :: ARIZONA USA :: 08/13/2008 9:17 AM


I want to thank you, Debra, for suggesting baking soda for use as a deodorant. I was very doubtful that it could perform satisfactorily, but I was so wrong. When my husbands usual brand of antiperspirant was no longer available, the others he tried gave him a rash. Short on options, he gave the baking soda a try. I was shocked when he told me that he had been using it for two full weeks. No odor at all! He uses the baking soda mixed half and half with cornstarch, as you have suggested. It is amazing. It works as good, or better than anything he has ever used and he is one tough customer. I appreciate that it doesn't contain any fragrance and saves so much money. Thank you!

POSTED BY PJ :: OR USA :: 08/13/2008 3:21 PM


Please tell me how you apply baking soda without making a mess.

My son with MCS finds that the Thai salt stick works for a few months, then it starts to smell like BO. The spray did not work for him.

COMMENT FROM DEBRA: After a shower, dry off, then pick up some baking soda on your finger tips and pat under arms. Very simple.


POSTED BY MARIE :: PA USA :: 08/15/2008 4:13 PM


you should try apple cider vinegar, it works wonders!

I soak a cotton ball with it and dab it under armpits.

you kind of smell like salad dressing but just for a little while :) the smell evaporates and itīs great if you mix it up with a little bit of almond oil or coconut oil for softer skin.

I also make variations of it with different essential oils like lavender and verbena...and with this you can hardly notice the smell of vinegar even when you first apply it.

hope it helps!

best of luck :)

POSTED BY FERN :: CALIFORNIA MEXICO :: 09/15/2008 12:49 PM


Hi

I've been reading your posts regarding natural deodorants and find it quite interesting. I, myself am unable to use conventional deodorant and antiperspirant because I have extremely sensitive skin and arm pits. But I sweat a lot and have had a tough time trying to find something that would help me.

About 6 months ago I read about using cornstarch and baking soda, so I tried it myself and have been using it ever since Ö I am quite happy with the results except for one thing. Since using the baking soda+corn starch, I noticed that my armpits have gotten darker (my skin color is brown), and my underarms have almost become black.

I find it embarrassing because who wants to have black armpits. I donít know what to do, because so far the baking soda + cornstarch combo has been working for me. Iíve tried herbal deoís, but some of them give me terrible rashes and donít help with odor.

POSTED BY K.T. :: FLORIDA USA :: 09/15/2008 2:43 PM


Hi Fern,

Thanks for the tips, and I think I'll try it.

Could you suggest a concentration ratio. For example amount of apple cider vinegar, lavender, and almond oil etc. per mixture?

Thanks again,

POSTED BY K.T. :: FLORIDA USA :: 09/23/2008 9:16 AM


Hi, Debra,

I'd like to try some baking-soda in spray bottle as someone over here suggested it.
My question to him is how lond can that deo stand without gettin spoiled.

COMMENT FROM DEBRA: I don't think it would spoil. It's just a mineral, not a plant or animal that would decompose.


POSTED BY L. :: NEW YORK USA :: 10/14/2008 6:27 AM


Hi K.T. sorry for the delayed answer, but here it goes:

I guess the ratio depends on your particular response to the ingredients. Before trying to mix it up with other stuff I would suggest to go straight for the acv (apple cider vinegar) soaked cotton ball, or acv diluted in water in a half and half ratio.

My personal recipe is kind of an all purpose tonic because I use it as an astringent facial cleanser as well.

I mix about a cup of acv with a tablespoon of rosewater and a tablespoon of orange blossom water. Sometimes I add one drop of lavender essential oil and one drop of verbena essential oil...if you are extra sweaty you can add about 1/4 cup of sage tea.

I wouldn't recommend to put this on if you are freshly shaved though.....it stings like hell!(cause of the vinegar)...for like a second. lol.

you might want to use only sage tea in this kind of situation.
(which on it's own is great for excessive perspiration)

hope this helps :)

cheers!

POSTED BY FERN :: CALIFORNIA MEXICO :: 10/23/2008 10:58 AM


Oh, and I forgot...

for the darkening of the armpits...it works wonders...just be sure to do it at night...otherwise sunlight will make it worse.

rub your armpits with half a lemon! every night...just donīt rub it while on direct sunlight exposure...because it will make them even darker.

lemon will not only lighten your armpits...but it also happens to be another great natural deodorant...so it will keep your pits light and bacteria free!



POSTED BY FERN :: CALIFORNIA MEXICO :: 10/23/2008 10:58 AM


Hey Fern,

No worries about the delay, and thanks for responding.

I'll definitely try these alternatives and see what happens.

Thanks again!!

POSTED BY K.T. :: FLORIDA USA :: 11/03/2008 4:33 PM


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