Debra Lynn Dadd
Toothpaste and Nature's Gate
Could you recommend to me some choices for natural toothpaste?
I found some with Nature's Gate called Nature's Gate Organics Peppermint Whitening Toothpast with Flouride 5 oz. for $6.99. Also comes in Raspberry flavor. Do you recommend Nature's Gate products?
I did not see this company in you list.
POSTED BY JOAN CHRISTENSEN :: INDIANA USA :: 11/13/2007 8:06 AM
If you haven't already, I suggest you read the post on this blog Q&A: Tooth Soap, which talks a lot about toothpaste and other methods of cleaning teeth as well.
Just because a company is not listed on Debra's List doesn't mean it's not a good company. I have many websites waiting to be added, as I only have so many hours in the day... :-)
That said, I just took a look at the Nature's Gate website and right away there was a "red flag"--the statement "blending nature and science to benefit you and the Earth". This generally means that the products are not 100% natural. That "sciene" part usually indicates the presence of man-made artificial ingredients.
Now I want to say some things here about these products, but I don't want it to sound like I am picking on Nature's Gate. These points apply to many so-called "natural" products.
You asked about toothpaste. I looked at the ingredients for Creme de Peppermint Natural Toothpaste, which is fluoride-free and contains baking soda. Both good. Also some natural flavorings, some herbal extracts, and sodium lauryl sulfate. Now sodium lauryl sulfate is one of those not-quite-natural ingredients that comes from a natural source, but is processed with chemicals. So it's not, per se, 100% natural, but is considered natural by the natural product industry because it's source is a plant ingredient. It's about like adding pesticides to a plant, which is still considered natural to the natural products industry. Sodium laurel sulfate (SLS) is no longer considered safe and is being removed from many natural product formulations now. So, no, I wouldn't put this toothpaste on Debra's List. The best ingredient in this toothpaste is baking soda, so why not just brush your teeth with baking soda?
I also took a look at their new "organics" line. Now, if you look at the organic bodycare products on Debra's List, you'll find that most of the ingredients are organically grown. Nature's Gate "Organics" Lavender & Aloe Nourishing Conditioner for All Hair Types has only one organic ingredient...the lavender. The rest are those not-quite-natural "science" ingredients.
I actually think this is mislabeled. This amount of organic ingredient wouldn't qualify it to be a certified organic product by USDA food standards, yet they seem to be able to get away with using the word "Organics" in the name.
Though Nature's Gate has been one of the old standby brands in natural food stores for years, there are more natural and more organic products available.
All that said, they are better than the standard supermarket brands, so it would be a step up to choose Nature's Gate over brands that are not natural at all.
Almost forgot to recommend a toothpaste! Personally, I use baking soda or various SLS-free tooth powder when I get bored with the toothpaste. There is also lots of good tooth care information at Natural Dentistry.
I have also noted some Nature's Gate products as questionable after close study of their ingredients, and I don't buy them anymore. As Debra said, there are many other choices available.
POSTED BY JANIS :: WASHINGTON USA :: 11/20/2007 12:40 PM
The word "organic" on personal care products has no meaning.
There is not an industry wide standard for the use of "organic" on a personal care product.
It's call greenwashing and there is a lot of it going on in the personal care product industry.
Also something else to be aware of, the term certified organic is only for agricultural ingredients so a toothpaste that is baking soda and salt would not qualify as a certified organic product because it has more than 5% non agricultural ingredients.
Certified organic means the product is 95% agricultural organic ingredients, excluding water, salts, minerals. So if you look at the label and read the ingredients you can figure if a product is truly organic or not. The ingredients are listed in order of the amount that is in the product.
I sell a toothpaste that is baking soda and salt based with essential oils and stevia as the sweetener in case you are interested.
You can look at them here: erinely.mionegroup.com/product/13101
And there are also a lot more option on the link that Debra gave you about the tooth powders, etc.
POSTED BY ERIN ELY :: MIESSENCE CERTIFIED ORGANICS :: ELYORGANICS.COM :: OREGON USA :: 11/20/2007 1:32 PM
Our family uses Kiss My Face Whitening Certified Organic Aloe Vera cool mint toothpaste. It does not contain flouride or sodium lauryl sulfate. We love it.
There is only one questionable ingredient - sodium lauryl sarcosinate which is listed in the middle of the ingredients. It also contains vegetable derived glycerin, plant origin sorbitol, hydrated silica, certified organic aloe vera, water, peppermint oil, iceland moss, xanthan gum (natural origin), tea tree oil, xylitol (plant origin), chlorophylin-copper complex (natural coloring).
POSTED BY SUN :: FLORIDA USA :: 11/24/2007 12:34 PM
I just want to point out this about the Kiss My Face Toothpaste,
this is a very good example of greenwashing.
The post says the Kiss My Face toothpaste is certified organic.
The company, Kiss My Face has done a nice job misleading the consumer by writing across the front of the box:
"Certified Organic Aloe Vera Toothpaste"
now, this leads you to believe that all the ingredients in the product, are certified organic but what they are referring to is ONLY the aloe vera, nothing else in the product, this is very misleading. There is no certification logo on the product to verify the organic claim. (one of the six sins of greenwashing)
The ingredients for the product taken from the kiss my face website:
Glycerin (Vegetable Source), Sorbitol (Plant Origin), Hydrated Silica (Mineral Origin), Certified Organic Aloe Vera, Aqua, Sodium Lauroyl Sarcosinate, Peppermint Oil, Iceland Moss, Xanthan Gum (Natural Origin), Menthol (Natural Origin), Tea Tree Oil, Xylitol (Plant Origin), Chlorophyllin-Copper Complex (Natural Coloring).
You notice how they list synthetic ingredients like sorbitol and then say they are plant derived, this is also a trick to make you think the ingredient is "natural". Often times when ingredients are derived from plants they have no relationship to the plant by the time they are extracted and processed into the form that is used in the final product.
Looking at the ingredients list, there is absolutely no way this product is certified organic because the first three ingredients are not organic, and there is absolutely no way that Sorbitol, hydrated silica, sodium lauroyl sarcosinate, xylitol are organic ingredients. This product would never meet the standard of certified organic.
Silica cannot be certified organic, sorbitol cannot be certified organic, sodium lauroyl sarcosinate cannot be certified organic, right there this eliminates the possibility that this is a certified organic product.
Certified organic products contain (excluding water and salt) at least 95% organically produced agricultural ingredients. The remaining ingredients (up to 5%) can be non-agricultural substances or non-organically produced agricultural ingredients, with strict processing criteria (eg. absolutely no GMOs or synthetic chemicals).
You must look for a verification of the organic claim by seeing a reliable logo such as USDA, Oregon Tilth, ACO, California Tilth and there are many more.
You can also read more about ecolabels at Eco-Labels.
POSTED BY ERIN ELY :: MIESSENCE CERTIFIED ORGANICS :: WWW.ELYORGANICS.COM :: OREGON USA :: 12/03/2007 9:00 PM
Just a quick note to let you know that I just found a "Nature's Gate Organics Advanced Care" toothpaste that doesn't have SLS as your article outlines.
I was looking for something without SLS, but still having flouride... and this is the one that my store had that wasn't an odd flavor.
I've only used it a couple times, but so far it's WAY better tasting than the Tom's of Maine that i've been using for the past couple years.
POSTED BY JIMMEREENO :: WASHINGTON USA :: 03/30/2009 7:21 AM
We produce a 'soap for teeth' toothpaste product called Tooth Chips that scored a 0 on the Skin Deep - Cosmetic Safety data base. We've had great feedback from all different kinds of people. It is fluoride free and contains no SLS or other harmful ingredients.
We also make a tooth powder with organic herbs & baking soda. It compliments the Tooth Chips. The Powder scored a 1 on the data base.
POSTED BY MONICA :: ROSE OF SHARON ACRES :: WWW.ROSEOFSHARONACRES.COM :: TEXAS USA :: 04/03/2009 10:23 AM
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