Debra Lynn Dadd

Unscented Soaps

QUESTION:

I had been using Clearly Natural Unscented Soap (glycerin based) without any problem for a year. Then there was a change in the product that has been denied by the company, but it is definitely a different product.

What kind of gentle, unscented soaps are out there? What are others using?

Thanks.

POSTED BY LW :: VIRGINIA USA :: 01/14/2008 12:40 PM


DEBRA'S ANSWER:

I personally can and like to use handmade soaps with natural fragrances, so I can't recommend an unscented soap I use, but I'm sure you'll get many responses!

My general recommendation is to check out the websites that sell handmade soaps at Debra's List: BodyCare: Skin: Handmade Soap. Many of them sell unscented soaps and since they are all handmade, you can talk with the people who are making them and find out what's in them.

Debra :-)


COMMENTS:

I've been using Dr. Bronner's baby mild (unscented) bar soap for a while now and I became a big fan.

It is actually the first soap I can use daily on my face and body without drying out. And I can confirm that it is absolutely scent-free.

I meanwhile use Dr. Bronner's liquid and bar soap for everything around the house including dishes (yes, Seventh Generation also dried my hands out) and myself and I owe that to Debra and her book and list.

Thanks so much!

POSTED BY ULLI :: MARYLAND USA :: 01/14/2008 3:36 PM


I absolutely love Janice's honey soap which is a clear glycerin soap. I even wash my eyelashes with it every morning. Occasionally it gets in my eyes and there is just the slightest sting. www.janices.com . It's a little pricey. Once I realized I liked it I ordered 10 pounds at a time which is a bit less expensive. It is easy to cut the large bars into smaller bars if you so desire.

POSTED BY MARY :: CALIFORNIA USA :: 01/17/2008 3:59 PM


I love the soap made by Botanie Soap. www.botaniesoap.com. Their soap is all natural (made from plants) and they have a sensitive skin bar that has no fragrance or color. I used to use this one on my kids. Their scented soaps are great too, and they don't dry out your skin, you really notice a difference when you use them (I got a little obsessed with them for a while and gave them as gifts to everyone I knew).

POSTED BY SHANNONC :: CA USA :: 01/17/2008 4:00 PM


I use several different round bar soaps made by www.sappohill.com. They offer several types that are scent and color free. Purchasing through their web site would provide you with all options. Some health food stores carry this brand, but do not always have the full line.

POSTED BY JGPZ :: NJ USA :: 01/17/2008 4:08 PM


I use handmade soap that is made by a friend of mine. Her company is called Bowerbird & Co. She uses all organic and wildcrafted ingredients. She started making soap because she had psoriasis and could not find a soap that worked for her. She has an unscented soap that is called Bowerbird Original. She has customers with chemical sensitivities that buy this soap and do not have a reaction to it.

She makes sure all her ingredients are top quality. Her base is coconut oil, cocoa butter, olive oil, and vitamin E. She refused to use palm oil because of the current craze of cutting down rain forests for palm oil plantations. She has made choices every step of the way in her business to be as sustainable as possible.

You can find her at:

www.bowerbirdandcompany.com

The unscented soap is at:

www.bowerbirdandcompany.com/pl/boriginal.html

POSTED BY ANJA :: ONTARIO CANADA :: 01/17/2008 4:25 PM


Dear LW,

We've recently switched to Vermont Soap and we LOVE it! =)

Last Fall, after reading about the toxic chemicals in soap, shampoo and other body care products, I was determined to find safe alternatives.

After finding Debra's website (a true blessing) I found Vermont Soap Organics on her list and decided to give them a try. I can't imagine ever going back to regular supermarket soap again.

They have an unscented bar called Oats 'N Aloe that might be what you're looking for. I've never tried that one personally, but all of the ones I have tried have been GREAT! We even use their liquid castile soap in place of shampoo. They use organic ingredients and are truly a wonderful company.

POSTED BY SMILEYMOM :: PENNSYLVANIA USA :: 01/17/2008 4:28 PM


Hi LW,

I am super sensitive. Grandpa's Unscented Baking Soda Soap is the only bar soap I can use (search for it online--lots of sites carry it), special order at Whole Foods (ask them to store it away from scented products) or other natural food stores. The box it comes in sometimes takes on the scent of other soaps if it is stored near them. Generally, the soap is fine out of the box. If too strong I will return and reorder. For dishes I use Seventh Generation Free and Clear dish liquid (which I can use as a hand soap or shampoo in a pinch).

POSTED BY A. :: CALIFORNIA USA :: 01/17/2008 4:31 PM


We too use Dr. Bonner's liquid soap in our hand dispensers, but for face/body/sometimes shampoo I make my own soap now. If you have a little bit of time for a new hobby, I would strongly suggest it! It can be fun and very satisfying. I had been mail-ordering handmade soap from someone else when my friend really encouraged me to make my own. And now some local folks who need a safe soap buy it from me, so I feel like I'm doing a real service for all of us.

POSTED BY GAYE :: PENNSYLVANIA USA :: 01/17/2008 5:05 PM


I too use fragrance free soap and have found Toms and Aveeno both have good fragrance free products and they are available at most stores.

POSTED BY SG :: WASHINGTON USA :: 01/17/2008 5:05 PM


Hi,

I would like to let you know that Savannah Moon offers a complete line of natural products that are truly unscented, they are called Moonbeam.

They offer a lovely Handcrafted Unscented Soap, here is the description: Experience the luxury of a Handcrafted Soap. Enriched with Shea Butter, it retains its glycerin and will leave your skin soft and moisturized. No animal ingredients, artificial colors or preservatives are ever used when creating this fine soap.

On the website www.SavannahMoon.com they offer a complete list of ingredients at the bottom of each page.

Enjoy!
Karen

POSTED BY KAREN SEREMAK :: SAVANNAH MOON NATURAL RELAXATION, BATH & BODY CARE :: WWW.SAVANNAHMOON.COM :: OHIO USA :: 01/18/2008 10:53 AM


I have been using the Vermont Soap organic products for a while now and love them. They have a couple of unscented products- bath & shower gel and an unscented soap.
Ann in MA.

POSTED BY ANN :: THE HEALTHY COTTAGE :: WWW.THEHEALTHYCOTTAGE.COM :: MA USA :: 01/28/2008 8:23 AM


Hi, I use Vermont Soap and its a blessing. I found it thru Debras list. It helps my wifes dry skin. I used their castille soap for dishes and hand wash. I will never return to commercial soap again.

POSTED BY EDSEL :: MINNESOTA USA :: 02/01/2008 6:22 PM


Gaye can you tell me where I can find more information about making my own shampoo, etc.? Do you find you save any money by making toiletries yourself? I know that often ingredients are priced prohibitively for small quantities.

POSTED BY KIPPERCAT :: TEXAS USA :: 02/11/2008 2:38 PM


MAKING YOUR OWN SOAP: There are as many ways/preferences/desires as there are when taking up knitting for a hobby, but some resources are easier to understand than others. You can't go wrong with The Natural Soap Book: Making Herbal and Vegetable-Based Soaps by Susan Miller Cavitch. She has a recipe for a shampoo bar too. Although you have to spend a bit of money to start out with, it all evens out in the end. One of my batches makes 40 bars of soap, which comes out to 75 cents or less per bar. I use a recipe not found in her book for laundry soap, which is even easier to make--can't remember the cost, but MUCH less expensive than buying any laundry soap at the store.

POSTED BY GAYE :: PIGMOM'S IDEAS :: WWW.FREEWEBS.COM/PIGMOM :: PENNSYLVANIA USA :: 02/18/2008 5:24 PM


I used Clearly Natural since I was younger and first started developing MCS symptoms. The company Clearly Natural was purchased in 2006 by a company called Beaumont Products, coincidence that the product changed? The company Beaumont Products makes all kinds of Air Fresheners, cleaners, waxes etc.. some of these products include: Citrus Magic air freshener, Veggie Wash, Trewax (wood refinishing, cleaners etc.)

I called Beaumont Products last year, they told me it was a known issue that some bars where accidentally scented. I explained well some bars have a smell others I've purchased reek of chemicals! They sent me a box of replacement soaps for free telling me the problem was resolved. The box that they shipped reeked of the chemical smell I am smelling in the bars. I immediately threw it in the garage and have yet to deal with it.

Unable to find a compatible soap in all my searching I called Beaumont Products again a couple days ago, they have yet again told me it's a known problem this time they say it was a problem with a distributor and the ingredient "corn oil" is causing the chemical smell and they have rectified the problem, they didn't really get into how they fixed it (I hope there not going to add an unscented masking fragrance) They say there going to send me out yet another box of soap I don't even really want anything else from this company, especially if it reeks of chemicals, but they promise it won't.

What is really disquieting is the fact that this stuff is in many distribution channels and stores, and when I ask what is going to be done about this (since they admit there is an issue) they say there is nothing they can do about, nor will do about it. If a customer purchases bars and calls them and explains they smell they will send replacements out. That just doesn't seem right to me, as people that buy UNSCENTED soap are depending on it to be UNSCENTED. Especially if there someone like me with not only MCS, but asthma, allergies, and numerous other issues.

Moving forward I am really trying to find another company, I've tried several soap crafters online, not only are they expensive, you sometimes don't know what your getting into. I purchased a soap that had the best rating from the EWG, that listed just one ingredient Babassu Oil! It felt like I rubbed camphor oil all over my self when I used it (burning tingling, not pleasant). The crafter well very nice and refunded my money told me there is no way camphor or any other ingredient could be in the bars, and more then likely is an allergy, maybe it is, but they also craft other soaps with tea tree, and other ingredients. I'm not trying to place blame by any means, I'm just trying to find a solution and prevent issues for anyone else that is overally sensitive.

I've also tried Dr Bronner's Baby unscented castile soap but it's very drying and split my hands. I've tried Kiss My Face Olive Oil Soap which is imported from Greece. It is very odorous even though it claims to be Fragrance Free, it feels good on the skin but I'm highly susceptible to scents of any kind natural or otherwise. I'm really not sure where to go at this point, it's sad when something that worked all those years for me, was relatively inexpensive and easy to find at any store mysteriously changes.

POSTED BY DENNIS :: FLORIDA USA :: 04/07/2009 7:42 AM


We have had the same response from the company. I hope the next batch is better for you, but like you we are disgusted with the company. I am now using Sappo Hill Unscented soap.

The ingredients from their website are:
saponified oils of palm and coconut:
fat obtained from the fruit or seed of the palm tree or kernels of coconut; which lathers readily and cleanses skin, glycerin: humectant, mild emulsifier, and emollient used to hold moisture (www.sappohill.com)

However, I will say that when it arrives in bulk there is some kind of "fragrance" but it goes away after airing out. They say the fragrance free soaps are kept apart from the other products.

POSTED BY LW :: VIRGINIA USA :: 04/07/2009 8:01 AM


Here at Savannah Moon we offer an unscented soap called Moonbeam, which is used by our customers with MCS without any problems. We also have other unscented handmade bodycare products.

We have recently reformulated all of our products to also be Nut Oil Free. A complete list of ingredients can be found at the bottom of each web page. We also offer some sample sizes for those who would like to give something a try before purchasing a full size item.

Please feel free to contact us with any questions. We are here to help!

POSTED BY KAREN SEREMAK :: SAVANNAH MOON NATURAL RELAXATION, BATH & BODY CARE :: WWW.SAVANNAHMOON.COM :: OHIO USA :: 04/20/2009 10:07 AM


Thanks for the link LW, I was looking at them the other day and didn't see anything but oatmeal soap. I'll look again as it sounds good =)

Well they may keep the soap separate, that doesn't mean that they keep there packaging materiel separated from EO's (essential oils) and other chemicals used the manufacture of the soap. I am growing quit tired of companies not considering this an issue.

POSTED BY DENNIS :: FLORIDA USA :: 04/20/2009 10:08 AM


@SAVANNAH MOON

In your post above it says that you reformulated your soaps to be "nut oil" free. In the ingredients on your site it says the soap contains Shea Butter. Shea Butter is from a nut, and most that have nut allergies can not tolerate it. Is this still being added to the bars?

Also as I mentioned above about cross contamination, would it be possible to receive unscented products with out smelling like other scented products?

Thanks

POSTED BY DENNIS :: FLORIDA USA :: 04/20/2009 2:50 PM


Well I contacted Sappo Hill, they were very nice and sent me a unscented sample.

When it arrived everything was cross contaminated from there scented line, the envelope, the included pamphlets, the sample everything reeked of scent. I would be leery buying the minimum order of 15 dollars in fear it would have the same issue (especially since the cheaper bars are unwrapped).

I really wish there was an unscented company, and one that doesn't send stinky envelopes, packing, product etc... When someone is ordering UNSCENTED they don't want to deal with scents!

POSTED BY DENNIS :: FLORIDA USA :: 04/20/2009 2:50 PM


Hi DENNIS,

You may have seen an earlier post or were on our old site. Since we have moved into our NEW Soap Studio we have not worked with any nut oils, including Shea Butter in any of our products. We have eliminated it for the exact reason you have stated, it is a nut butter. Please be sure to empty your cache and your history, if you were on our old site at some point your browser my be taking you to the wrong place. Our ingredients can be found at the left side of our Home page.

And yes Moonbeam products (unscented) are also kept away from any of our scented products to be sure that they are truly unscented.


Please feel free to contact me with any other questions.

Thank you,
Karen Seremak, owner

POSTED BY KAREN SEREMAK :: SAVANNAH MOON NATURAL RELAXATION, BATH & BODY CARE :: WWW.SAVANNAHMOON.COM :: OHIO USA :: 04/20/2009 4:10 PM


Thanks for the reply Karen, I never been to your site before, I just clicked the link in your post. Then on the home page I clicked ingredients, (I also just used another browser that's never been to the site) from your home page when clicking on ingredients, it links to savannahmoon.com/ingredientlist.html also shows today's date at the top and it shows the below ingredients:

(I believe what you say, I just want to let you know what it shows, in case anyone else goes there as well)

Bath & Shower

All Moonbeam products will not contain essential oils or fragrance oils.

Soap Moon(tm), Soap Bar, The BIG BULK Soap Bar - Handcrafted

Ingredients: Saponified: Coconut Oil, Soy Butter, Grapeseed Oil, Rice Bran Oil, Sunflower Oil, Palma Christi Oil, Cocoa Butter, Essential Oil or Premium Fragrance Oil, Natural Vitamin E. Chamomile/Lavender also contains Jojoba Oil. Soaps scented with Premium Fragrance Oil will contain natural mineral coloring.

Thanks,

Dennis

COMMENT FROM DEBRA: Hey, Dennis...this ingredients list says SOY Butter, no Shea Butter listed here...


POSTED BY DENNIS :: FLORIDA USA :: 04/21/2009 3:29 AM


Elemental Soapworks out of Pagosa Springs, CO makes a great unscented natural soap called "Purely Natural".
Ingredients are: coconut oil, olive oil, soybean oil, and palm oil (all oils saponified with retained vegetable glycerin. I carry this soap, along with many other natural body care products and cosmetics,on my website www.NaturalJoyBeauty.com or you can purchase it from them directly at www.elementalsoapworks.com

POSTED BY JOY :: NATURALJOYBEAUTY.COM :: WWW.NATURALJOYBEAUTY.COM :: UTAH USA :: 04/29/2009 7:42 AM


I also use Cleary Natural Unscented Glycerin soap. T usually buy large quantities and bought the last from a company called Vitaglo.com .com. They had the best price. The last order I got was from July of 2008 and I can't tell any difference in those bars from the first time I order from another source in 2006. Are you buying your Clearly Natural direct from Beaumont Products or from a retailer or .com company? I'm wondering if Vitaglo had some soap in inventory that was from the original formula. Anyone else still using Clearly Natural without noticing any changes?

Tanya in Florida

POSTED BY TANYA :: FLORIDA USA :: 05/06/2009 10:48 AM


Fiji organic coconut oil soap make a wonderful unsented soap. It is 100% organic virgin coconut oil. For those you like scent. The scented ones are Great too! Naturalheathyconcepts.com sells them.

POSTED BY KDRAGONRIDER :: WISCONSIN USA :: 05/06/2009 10:49 AM


Have you tried Grandma's Unscented Lye Soap? (lard, water, lye) I've recently added it to my soap options. It is simple, lasts a long time (use with soap dish that drains), and is very gentle. Available online at www.secretsofsuzanne.com or at some Ace Hardware stores.

POSTED BY A. :: CALIFORNIA USA :: 05/06/2009 10:59 AM


We produce a full line of all natural Goat Milk Soaps that are fragrance free - like Carrot Complexion, Simple Purity, Simple Purity with Oatmeal, Milk N Honey and Honey/Carrot Twist to name a few. We understand the needs of our customers and try to accomodate them.

We are now signers of the Skin Deep Cosmetic Safety Database so everyone can 'see' the quality of our products.

POSTED BY MONICA :: ROSE OF SHARON ACRES :: WWW.ROSEOFSHARONACRES.COM :: TEXAS USA :: 05/06/2009 11:37 AM


@TANYA you'll see in my posts, originally my Clearly Natural was coming from super markets. The last bars have been sent to me twice (with a few months gap) direct for the manufacture.

Basically I believe the problem is cross contamination, since they sell numerous scented products, cleaning products, air fresheners, floor wax and cleaning products. They must of moved the manufacturing facility in house when they bought them, that's the only thing I can think of.

If you want to know if your getting the old label check the picture of what the newer clearlynaturalsoaps.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=BarSoap&item=876800030

and older label ai.pricegrabber.com/pi/9/72/54/97254460_160.jpg

Also to the soap crafters responding, well I'm a firm believer in the Skindeep database, I would be better impressed if your posts describing how you use completely separate equipment in preparation, production of unscented and scented products. As well as keeping all shipping related material in a cross contamination free environment from scents. I'm growing quit tired of trying bar after bar of supposed unscented products and they reek from being around other products or produced on shared equipment.

I don't know why it has to be so hard to find a truly unscented bar, then if you do it's loaded with other ALLERGENS nut oils, soy, wheat etc... soap shouldn't be this complicated really it shouldn't, I about give up at this point at ever finding anything.

POSTED BY DENNIS :: FLORIDA USA :: 05/12/2009 10:27 AM


Dennis, In response to your question of manufacturing scented and unscented soaps...we make single batches and clean all equipment thoroughly after each batch. We also use fresh liners in all of our loaf boxes for each batch. We cure each 'flavor' of soap on separate racks and when finished, the soaps are placed in separate containers. No soaps are mingled with another during the entire process.

For packaging, we wrap each soap in bubble wrap to try to maintain the purity of each scent or no scent. I do acknowledge that oatmeal, honey, nuts etc do give their own unique scent to an otherwise unscented soap. We have had good feedback on our simple purity and castile baby soap (which is 100% olive oil/100% goat milk)from those that don't want any scent in their soaps. But....every nose is different. Good luck in your quest - I know that it can be discouraging.

POSTED BY MONICA :: ROSE OF SHARON ACRES :: WWW.ROSEOFSHARONACRES.COM :: TEXAS USA :: 05/13/2009 5:40 AM


I use Alabu goat milk soap. They make an unscented variety. You can buy it online from alabu.com.

POSTED BY MARGARET :: OPTIMUM CHOICES :: WWW.OPTIMUMCHOICES.COM :: COLORADO USA :: 05/13/2009 6:12 AM


Hi Dennis,

I truly do my best to offer quality products. Everything is spelled out... Nothing is misleading. Moonbeam Products are unscented, plain and simple. They are not mixed with other products. Also, no mater what a company makes their products out of someone out there will not be able to use it, that is the reason for disclosing your ingredients.

I do understand your concerned and I do have a suggestion for you. You should look into getting a soap making book and make your own. Then you will know exactly what is and isn't in it. That's how I got started! :o)

We would not be able to stay in business if all we offered were unscented products.

Karen Seremak, owner

POSTED BY KAREN SEREMAK :: SAVANNAH MOON NATURAL RELAXATION, BATH & BODY CARE :: WWW.SAVANNAHMOON.COM :: OHIO USA :: 05/13/2009 6:27 AM


Thank you both to Rose and Karen

I wasn't trying to question the quality of your products, I am sure they are of the utmost quality, and I am sure great pride goes into each bar you make. I just have concerns with shared equipment, washed or not there is the possibility of residues from previous batches. I understand there isn't a huge market for just unscented soap.

@Making my own: I thought about, I truly have, but the whole Saponification process scares me. I don't particularly want sodium hydroxide (Lye), in my house, nor would I feel comfortable in using it.

POSTED BY DENNIS :: FLORIDA USA :: 05/18/2009 8:19 AM


EnviroRite Hair-Body Wash is a liquid with no fragrances of any kind. One source is allergybegone.com. A Google search would probably have other sources also.

POSTED BY ANNIQUE :: COLORADO USA :: 05/19/2009 2:36 AM


Besides Vermont Soap unscented- I have also tried the unscented soaps from The Dirty Moose. The ones I have used are the Goat's milk and Olive oil soap. The Goat's milk also can be used as a shampoo.
Vermont soap now has unscented foaming hand soap, unscented bath & shower gel and unscented bar soaps.
Hope this helps.

POSTED BY ANN :: THE HEALTHY COTTAGE :: WWW.THEHEALTHYCOTTAGE.COM :: MASSACHUSETTS USA :: 05/26/2009 9:39 AM


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