Debra Lynn Dadd
I want to ask a question about tooth paste. Every morning while brushing my teeth, I would gag and sometimes even throw-up... This was horrible! At first I blamed it on my stressful life, gag reflex.. but now my life is not stressful, but this continues, and actually has gotten worse. I have tried all the 'Natural' tooth pastes and still the same thing. I now use only baking soda but worry that it might damage my tooth enamal. Any suggestions?
POSTED BY DENISE :: COLORADO USA :: 09/30/2008 10:26 AM
Well, I don't have a solution, but I will tell you I have the same problem. I find I have more of a problem with the strongly flavored ones - the mints, cinnamons, etc. and most of the fluoride ones. So for me, I think its the scents/flavorings.
I'm currently trying the Jason Nutrismile Ester-C (thinking that orange wouldn't be that bad). Its not as bad, but its still a problem.
Also remember that you don't need a full 2 inches of toothpaste; it really only takes about 2 pea-sized dabs. If you use less, hopefully you'll have less of a reaction.
POSTED BY LAURA :: CALIFORNIA USA :: 10/06/2008 9:22 AM
Have you tried organic? Sometimes products labeled as Natural have the same ingredients as Conventional products.. so even though you have tried Natural products you have not changed the ingredients.
I use Miessence Toothpaste - I dont suffer from what you have listed but its not loaded with those items you can find in conventional products.
Miessence toothpastes do not contain fluoride, aluminum, artificial sweeteners or detergents. www.trulypure.mionegroup.com
POSTED BY WANDA K :: MIESSENCE :: TRULYPURE.MIONEGROUP.COM :: NEW YORK USA :: 10/06/2008 9:23 AM
This is going to sound odd, but here it goes... I too have a terrible gag reflex. My dentist told me to try and balance on one leg while brushing my teeth, it somehow tricks your brain into concentrating on the more important task of staying upright. It sounds odd, but it really works. It is good for your muscles too! Good luck!
POSTED BY GWEN :: OHIO USA :: 10/06/2008 9:24 AM
I use a mix of 4 parts baking soda and 1 of sea salt (Celtic or Himalayan),up to 1/4 teaspoon of the dry mix, liquefied before brushing. A dental study from the 1940s (no longer have the reference) compared baking soda to the era's toothpastes, mechanically brushed on real teeth. Baking soda and Colgate were gentlest, neither likely to wear away enamel in a long lifetime. Salt is more abrasive, but dissolved should not be.
Some use only baking soda, or equal parts soda and salt, and some 'natural' powders sold use a 3 to 1 mix. Both kill harmful mouth bacteria.
POSTED BY PESETA :: CALIFORNIA USA :: 10/06/2008 11:41 AM
This may sound strange, but actually, some people have what doctors call a "sensitive gag reflex". You may just be gagging from the feel of the toothpaste in your mouth. This happens to me as well sometimes. It's worse with toothpastes that foam up a lot. I haven't heard that baking soda will damage tooth enamel, it's actually used in quite a few natural toothpastes as an abrasive. It dissolves in water anyway, so it's not going to be that abrasive.
POSTED BY SAMANTHA :: GEORGIA CANADA :: 10/06/2008 11:42 AM
I make homemade toothpaste for my family using xylitol (make sure it's not the GMO sourced corn derived xylitol NOW foods sells), organic coconut oil, and organic peppermint oil. My six year old loves it so much he sometimes asks if he can eat a pinch. He can because it's absolutely safe.The xylitol has been proven to kill mouth decay. It reduces tartar build-up significantly.
You mix the xylitol granules and coconut oil into a paste, then add peppermint oil till your happy. Every now and then it will get a little crusty, you just add a little more oil and remix.
I get my xylitol in bulk from www.smartsweet.com, it is said that too much xylitol can cause stomache discomfort but the amount we use in our toothpaste and baking has never caused any of us any problems. Enjoy!
COMMENT FROM DEBRA: See my comments on xylitol at Sweet Savvy: Sugar Alcohols. But I agree. It does have dental benefits and in this small amount would not be harmful.
POSTED BY BEE MOSES :: CALIFORNIA USA :: 10/06/2008 1:22 PM
I was using baking soda on a daily basis in addition to my toothpaste and my teeth were hurting,,,,,stopped the baking soda and the pain went away. I use Tom's of Maine toothpaste plus Ultra Safe a product you can learn about at www.safersoaps.com . This is a product that has been so safe for me,,,,I have MCS,,,,that I brush my teeth with it,,,,it brightens them,,,,and also clean my home,,,,use with laundry,,,,,and many other things. I don't know if this would help with solving your problem, but you might want to check it out. Mary
POSTED BY MSK :: PENNSYLVANIA USA :: 10/06/2008 1:23 PM
Sounds like you are getting the 'suds' too far back into your throat. You might want to start brushing and before you get too much foam, spit the excess siliva and toothpaste out - then begin brushing again.
You are correct baking soda can etch away tooth enamel. We make a product called "TOOTH CHIPS - SOAP FOR YOUR TEETH" that might be better for you. It doesn't contain the harmful chemicals that toothpaste does, comes in many flavors and is wonderful for gum tissue and gentle on enamel. It will give you a clean feeling like you've been to the dentist! The WinterMint with Xylitol is our top seller!
POSTED BY MONICA :: ROSE OF SHARON ACRES :: WWW.ROSEOFSHARONACRES.COM :: TEXAS USA :: 10/06/2008 1:38 PM
I've read that Hulda Clark recommends baking soda and a little Hydrogen peroxide to make it toothpaste texture. The H2O2 will kill bacteria as well in the mouth. I asked my dental hygenienist about it and she said it was a pretty good idea.
POSTED BY EDY :: CALIFORNIA USA :: 10/06/2008 1:53 PM
This happens to me sometimes too when I'm brushing my tongue. Are you breathing through your nose when you brush? It might be a response to not being able to breathe while brushing. I'm guessing you don't get the gag reflex when you brush with baking soda. Perhaps the foaminess of toothpaste is clogging your throat.
POSTED BY DANI :: CALIFORNIA USA :: 10/06/2008 1:53 PM
I was surprised no one suggested you try brushing without any toothpaste at all -- the really natural way! The brush alone, used properly, is enough.
Quite a few years back my oral hygienist told me I was wearing away my enamel, probably from brushing too much. I liked my teeth to feel clean, but I was scared of harming my teeth, so I cut back and didn't brush so much.
Next time I saw my dentist, he didn't like the state of my mouth, so I asked, "Then what am I supposed to do!?" And he suggested NOT using any toothpaste, just using the brush. It is the toothpaste that is particularly abrasive.
So I stopped toothpaste completely, and have only brushed, for well over 10 years. I get great checkups, and my teeth have never been better. I do sometimes use floss, or more commonly, little wooden plakstiks, to clean between my teeth.
If your breath doesn't feel fresh, you could always use a little mouthwash after brushing (I don't, as I can't stand the taste), or chew some parsley, the natural breath freshener (fresh cilantro or basil would work too!)
I feel like toothpaste is just a scam to get us to buy more stuff we really don't need.
full disclosure: If you drink a lot of coffee, tea, or red wine, you may need to have your teeth cleaned more frequently because of staining. I sometimes get staining from eating too much chocolate.
POSTED BY DARSHANA :: CALIFORNIA USA :: 10/13/2008 5:57 PM
You can slowly decrease your gag reflex by practicing. Put your finger in your mouth and little by little move it farther back. If you do this each day, more and more, you'll be more tolerant over time.
Also: I use Trader Joe's toothpaste with a Licorice type of taste, and find that the taste is very, very gentle...doesn't shock my mouth like the peppermints do.
POSTED BY P :: MICHIGAN USA :: 10/20/2008 4:44 PM
Try tooth soap. It's non-toxic and has few ingredients and is supposed to clean your teeth better than toothpaste (because it has no glycerin which can coat the teeth). Just Google on "tooth soap" and you'll find lots of info. I am using toothsoap now most of the time. When I do use toothpaste, I use Weleda Calendula because it is free of fluoride, sodium lauryl sulfate and mint (I take homeopathics so have to avoid mint).
COMMENT FROM DEBRA: And we have a whole post on this right on this very blog at Q&A: Tooth Soap
POSTED BY MARGARET :: OPTIMUM CHOICES, LLC :: WWW.OPTIMUMCHOICES.COM :: COLORADO USA :: 10/23/2008 12:57 AM
I agree with your concern about baking soda wearing away at your teeth. I wouldnt' want to use the same stuff I scour pans with to clean my teeth!
My mom has been brushing her teeth with plain old salt for years,a nd has not once had a cavity since she made the switch. I personally use Hawiian pink salt, which is pure sea salt mixed with some pink clay. I figure the incrimental amount of clay might benefit my teeth. I also rinse out my mouth with organic ground cloves, mostly for the way it cleans inbetween my teeth but also because of its anti-microbial properties. A whole clove used to be placed inside a cavity to stop the decay back in the day, so I figure it is good for brushing teeth with. If I had the notion I would not hesitate to mix up a form of dry toothpaste out of various low-sugar anti-micromial herbs and spices. But for the most hasstle-free and frugal toothpaste, salt is the winner.
POSTED BY HEIDI :: WASHINGTON USA :: 10/23/2008 1:19 AM
It was suggested in one of the posts that NOW uses GMO sourced corn derived xylitol,,,,I e-mailed the NOW company and their response is that they use guaranteed GMO free corn. Hopefully this is true, especially since I had just bought their toothpaste. I hadn't read all of the posts previously and as I am now I realize the importance of doing so.....with the topic as well as others I'm beginning to think there isn't much out there that is safe. "O)))
POSTED BY MSK :: PENNSYLVANIA USA :: 11/17/2008 1:33 PM
use a children\'s size toothbrush.
POSTED BY JOY :: ALABAMA CANADA :: 09/11/2009 11:53 AM
My dental hygienist would agree w/Darshena. At my appt yesterday she recommended brushing without toothpaste. She said you actually get your teeth cleaner that way, if you rub your tongue over them when done to see if any spots need redoing. Can use a very small amt of toothpaste after if you like, but the mouthwash is probably a better idea. I like Tom's Natural Tartar Control. Husband likes Jason's Healthy Mouth rinse.
POSTED BY SADIE :: HAWAII USA :: 09/28/2009 7:25 AM
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